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<script id="js-issuable-app-initial-data" type="application/json">{&quot;endpoint&quot;:&quot;/GNOME/gimp/issues/3617&quot;,&quot;updateEndpoint&quot;:&quot;/GNOME/gimp/issues/3617.json&quot;,&quot;canUpdate&quot;:false,&quot;canDestroy&quot;:false,&quot;issuableRef&quot;:&quot;#3617&quot;,&quot;markdownPreviewPath&quot;:&quot;/GNOME/gimp/preview_markdown&quot;,&quot;markdownDocsPath&quot;:&quot;/help/user/markdown&quot;,&quot;lockVersion&quot;:3,&quot;issuableTemplates&quot;:[{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;bug&quot;},{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;feature&quot;},{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;performance&quot;}],&quot;initialTitleHtml&quot;:&quot;Consider Renaming GIMP To A Less Offensive Name&quot;,&quot;initialTitleText&quot;:&quot;Consider Renaming GIMP To A Less Offensive Name&quot;,&quot;initialDescriptionHtml&quot;:&quot;\u003chr data-sourcepos=\&quot;2:1-3:0\&quot;\u003e\u0026#x000A;\u003cp data-sourcepos=\&quot;4:1-4:15\&quot; dir=\&quot;auto\&quot;\u003e(Edit by Admin)\u003c/p\u003e\u0026#x000A;\u003cp data-sourcepos=\&quot;6:1-6:7\&quot; dir=\&quot;auto\&quot;\u003eHi all,\u003c/p\u003e\u0026#x000A;\u003cp data-sourcepos=\&quot;8:1-8:305\&quot; dir=\&quot;auto\&quot;\u003eI just want to mention some expectations. This topic is quite sensitive, so please do an extra effort to do previous research, try to be extra empathetic, and in general treat others with respect and understanding. Here at GNOME we have high expectations for our communications, getting personal won&#39;t do.\u003c/p\u003e\u0026#x000A;\u003cp data-sourcepos=\&quot;10:1-10:156\&quot; dir=\&quot;auto\&quot;\u003eWe also use GitLab as an issue tracker, not as a forum. That means the issue might get locked if it&#39;s too off-topic of the general technical issue tracking.\u003c/p\u003e\u0026#x000A;\u003cp data-sourcepos=\&quot;12:1-12:10\&quot; dir=\&quot;auto\&quot;\u003e(End edit)\u003c/p\u003e\u0026#x000A;\u003chr data-sourcepos=\&quot;14:1-15:0\&quot;\u003e\u0026#x000A;\u003cp data-sourcepos=\&quot;16:1-17:547\&quot; dir=\&quot;auto\&quot;\u003eI&#39;d like to propose renaming GIMP, due to the baggage behind the name.\u0026#x000A;The most modern and often used version of the word \&quot;gimp\&quot; \u003ca href=\&quot;https://www.dictionary.com/browse/gimp\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow noreferrer noopener\&quot; target=\&quot;_blank\&quot;\u003eis an ableist insult\u003c/a\u003e. This is also the \u003ca href=\&quot;https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gimp\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow noreferrer noopener\&quot; target=\&quot;_blank\&quot;\u003ecolloquial usage of the word\u003c/a\u003e. In addition to the pain of the definition, there&#39;s also the marketability issue. Acronyms are difficult to remember, and they end up pronounced instead of read as their parts. \&quot;GIMP\&quot; does not give a hint towards the function of the app, and it&#39;s hard to market something that&#39;s either used as an insult or a sex reference.\u003c/p\u003e\u0026#x000A;\u003cp data-sourcepos=\&quot;19:1-19:297\&quot; dir=\&quot;auto\&quot;\u003eThis proposal would, at the very least, cover the appearances of \&quot;GIMP\&quot; in the desktop files, the UI, metadata, and marketing materials. I understand that it would be difficult to change every single occurrence within the code due to how it would mess with history. Some alternative names include:\u003c/p\u003e\u0026#x000A;\u003cul data-sourcepos=\&quot;21:1-26:0\&quot; dir=\&quot;auto\&quot;\u003e\u0026#x000A;\u003cli data-sourcepos=\&quot;21:1-21:52\&quot;\u003eGNU Imp (GNU Image Manipulation Program, restyled)\u003c/li\u003e\u0026#x000A;\u003cli data-sourcepos=\&quot;22:1-22:38\&quot;\u003eGNU PIE (GNU Photo and Image Editor)\u003c/li\u003e\u0026#x000A;\u003cli data-sourcepos=\&quot;23:1-23:9\&quot;\u003eGlimpse\u003c/li\u003e\u0026#x000A;\u003cli data-sourcepos=\&quot;24:1-24:10\&quot;\u003eClickfix\u003c/li\u003e\u0026#x000A;\u003cli data-sourcepos=\&quot;25:1-26:0\&quot;\u003eWilber\u003c/li\u003e\u0026#x000A;\u003c/ul\u003e\u0026#x000A;\u003cp data-sourcepos=\&quot;27:1-27:216\&quot; dir=\&quot;auto\&quot;\u003eFor the sake of productive discussion, I&#39;d like to ask non-contributors not to comment if they are not suggesting a name. 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This is also the [colloquial usage of the word](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gimp). In addition to the pain of the definition, there&#39;s also the marketability issue. Acronyms are difficult to remember, and they end up pronounced instead of read as their parts. \&quot;GIMP\&quot; does not give a hint towards the function of the app, and it&#39;s hard to market something that&#39;s either used as an insult or a sex reference.\n\nThis proposal would, at the very least, cover the appearances of \&quot;GIMP\&quot; in the desktop files, the UI, metadata, and marketing materials. I understand that it would be difficult to change every single occurrence within the code due to how it would mess with history. 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<div><div><div class="title-container"><h2 dir="auto" class="title qa-title">Consider Renaming GIMP To A Less Offensive Name</h2> <!----></div> <!----> <div class="description" updated-at="2019-07-05T08:05:16+00:00"><div class="md"><hr data-sourcepos="2:1-3:0">
<p data-sourcepos="4:1-4:15" dir="auto">(Edit by Admin)</p>
<p data-sourcepos="6:1-6:7" dir="auto">Hi all,</p>
<p data-sourcepos="8:1-8:305" dir="auto">I just want to mention some 
expectations. This topic is quite sensitive, so please do an extra 
effort to do previous research, try to be extra empathetic, and in 
general treat others with respect and understanding. Here at GNOME we 
have high expectations for our communications, getting personal won't 
do.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="10:1-10:156" dir="auto">We also use GitLab as an 
issue tracker, not as a forum. That means the issue might get locked if 
it's too off-topic of the general technical issue tracking.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="12:1-12:10" dir="auto">(End edit)</p>
<hr data-sourcepos="14:1-15:0">
<p data-sourcepos="16:1-17:547" dir="auto">I'd like to propose renaming GIMP, due to the baggage behind the name.
The most modern and often used version of the word "gimp" <a href="https://www.dictionary.com/browse/gimp" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">is an ableist insult</a>. This is also the <a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gimp" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">colloquial usage of the word</a>.
 In addition to the pain of the definition, there's also the 
marketability issue. Acronyms are difficult to remember, and they end up
 pronounced instead of read as their parts. "GIMP" does not give a hint 
towards the function of the app, and it's hard to market something 
that's either used as an insult or a sex reference.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="19:1-19:297" dir="auto">This proposal would, at the 
very least, cover the appearances of "GIMP" in the desktop files, the 
UI, metadata, and marketing materials. I understand that it would be 
difficult to change every single occurrence within the code due to how 
it would mess with history. Some alternative names include:</p>
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<li data-sourcepos="21:1-21:52">GNU Imp (GNU Image Manipulation Program, restyled)</li>
<li data-sourcepos="22:1-22:38">GNU PIE (GNU Photo and Image Editor)</li>
<li data-sourcepos="23:1-23:9">Glimpse</li>
<li data-sourcepos="24:1-24:10">Clickfix</li>
<li data-sourcepos="25:1-26:0">Wilber</li>
</ul>
<p data-sourcepos="27:1-27:216" dir="auto">For the sake of productive 
discussion, I'd like to ask non-contributors not to comment if they are 
not suggesting a name. If you would like to express approval or 
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Hi all,

I just want to mention some expectations. This topic is quite sensitive,
 so please do an extra effort to do previous research, try to be extra 
empathetic, and in general treat others with respect and understanding. 
Here at GNOME we have high expectations for our communications, getting 
personal won't do.

We also use GitLab as an issue tracker, not as a forum. That means the 
issue might get locked if it's too off-topic of the general technical 
issue tracking.

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I'd like to propose renaming GIMP, due to the baggage behind the name.
The most modern and often used version of the word "gimp" [is an ableist
 insult](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/gimp). This is also the 
[colloquial usage of the 
word](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gimp). In addition
 to the pain of the definition, there's also the marketability issue. 
Acronyms are difficult to remember, and they end up pronounced instead 
of read as their parts. "GIMP" does not give a hint towards the function
 of the app, and it's hard to market something that's either used as an 
insult or a sex reference.

This proposal would, at the very least, cover the appearances of "GIMP" 
in the desktop files, the UI, metadata, and marketing materials. I 
understand that it would be difficult to change every single occurrence 
within the code due to how it would mess with history. Some alternative 
names include:

* GNU Imp (GNU Image Manipulation Program, restyled)
* GNU PIE (GNU Photo and Image Editor)
* Glimpse
* Clickfix
* Wilber

For the sake of productive discussion, I'd like to ask non-contributors 
not to comment if they are not suggesting a name. If you would like to 
express approval or disapproval use GitLab's reactions, not the 
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definition of offensive words - the only way the connotation can 
actually shift is if the people hurt by it reclaim it themselves. Since 
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 the upvotes and downvotes may not be accurate to the preferences of the
 GIMP community, due to this thread on social media: <a href="https://social.libre.fi/objects/37b1c8d9-ea35-4299-bb03-080ee004c13e" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://social.libre.fi/objects/37b1c8d9-ea35-4299-bb03-080ee004c13e</a></p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="John Harris, Hugo, Kakol, Giacomo Tesio, databoose, Gabriel Lima, jcr, Scott, Matthew Neidig, Fehér Roland Ádám, and 7 more."><span>
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 to report gimp because they realized gimp isn't made by a corporation 
that will conform to extremist pro-censorship ideologies in order to 
keep extra customers, it's pretty entertaining to see them all crying 
like children on there because they didn't get their way.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="osiixy, Fehér Roland Ádám, Douman, Tim Stahel, Jose C, Wesley Bliss, Annie May, Mike Sulsenti, xDShot, Andrew Karstaedt, and 3 more."><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:386">With all due respect, that's a poor 
answer. It's hard to change the definition of offensive words - the only
 way the connotation can actually shift is if the people hurt by it 
reclaim it themselves. Since there is no effort to reclaim that word, it
 still hurts those it targets. There is a market of people that have 
heard of the software and refuse to use it based on the name alone.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:82" dir="auto">I disagree.  There is an action to reclaim the word, namely, this software itself.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:350" dir="auto">Besides, "gimp" isn't a 
commonly used slur.  I've never met someone offended by the term.  If 
you're offended by it, you're making the word more harmful, and by 
trying to keep it out of innocent contexts, you're contributing to the 
problem.  If you treat a word like a slur, it becomes one, and if you 
don't, it loses the hurtfulness it might've had.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Hugo, Gabriel Lima, jcr, Scott, Giacomo Tesio, Matthew Neidig, TheChiefMeat, Fehér Roland Ádám, Douman, Roosemberth Palacios, and 11 more."><span>
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 the developers members of the community who are called gimps?  I cannot
 claim that using the n-word would be a case of my "reclaiming" the 
word, as I'm a white person.  I <em>could</em> claim other words, but 
some of those words that people claim they are, "reclaiming" I have not 
seen that from a positive member of the community.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:161" dir="auto">"I've never met someone" is an 
argument based on the fact that your circle doesn't include disabled 
people who have been negative targets of the use of the word.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:234" dir="auto">Maybe you haven't met someone 
who has been offended by the n-word, or the r-word, or the t-word.  But 
it probably more means that you have made it clear that you think they 
are fine words, and you're just using them to "reclaim" them.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="dwkretz and zappedfish"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="1:4-1:68">Are the developers members of the community who are called gimps?</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:99" dir="auto">I am part of the GIMP team and am a gimp. Are we now officially blessed to call the program "GIMP"?</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Fehér Roland Ádám, Douman, Justin Smith, Federico Ramirez, Jose C, Wesley Bliss, Andrew Karstaedt, snintendog, and Nyerguds"><span>
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 just want to point out that I have, on two occasions now, recommended 
this program to photography and graphic design educators (as an 
alternative to Photoshop) who told me that they considered it and found 
it good as software but weren't permitted by their institution to use it
 in the classroom because of the name.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:185" dir="auto">Photography and graphic design 
is one of the last holdouts of proprietary software, and at this point, 
not (at least) being open to changing it is a major problem in terms of 
marketing.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="5:3-5:146">The name was originally (and remains) an 
acronym; although the word “gimp” can be used offensively in some 
cultures, that is not our intent.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="7:1-7:27" dir="auto">Or, as <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/ealgase" data-user="21707" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="ealgase">@ealgase</a> says above:</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="9:3-9:45">Besides, "gimp" isn't a commonly used slur.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="11:1-11:394" dir="auto">The word <em>is</em> 
offensive, to a great many people. If I wrote the "C UNIX Networking 
Toolkit", or the "Secure High-Integrity Tunnel" and called it by its 
acronym, people would have a problem with that, and probably wouldn't 
use the software. <strong>It doesn't matter whether we don't like that the word is offensive.</strong> People, real people in the real world, are not using the software because of this.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="13:1-13:305" dir="auto">Note, regarding <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/ealgase" data-user="21707" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="ealgase">@ealgase</a>'s
 point about the thread: I don't know what you mean by "the GIMP 
community". I'm a user of this software and have been since I first 
installed Ubuntu 9 years ago. I hope that's enough to put me in "the 
community", but even if not, please take these arguments on their own 
merits.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <div class="note_edited_ago edited-text">
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<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:307">Note, regarding <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/ealgase" data-user="21707" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="ealgase">@ealgase</a>'s
 point about the thread: I don't know what you mean by "the GIMP 
community". I'm a user of this software and have been since I first 
installed Ubuntu 9 years ago. I hope that's enough to put me in "the 
community", but even if not, please take these arguments on their own 
merits.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:212" dir="auto">I'm sure there are members on both sides here, I just mentioned the social media thread because I feel the <gl-emoji title="thumbs up sign" data-name="thumbsup" data-unicode-version="6.0"><img class="emoji" title=":thumbsup:" alt=":thumbsup:" src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/thumbsup-59ec2457ab33e8897261d01a495f6cf5c668d0004807dc541c3.png" width="20" height="20" align="absmiddle"></gl-emoji> vs <gl-emoji title="thumbs down sign" data-name="thumbsdown" data-unicode-version="6.0"><img class="emoji" title=":thumbsdown:" alt=":thumbsdown:" src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/thumbsdown-5954334e2dae5357312b3d629f10a496c728029e02216f8c8.png" width="20" height="20" align="absmiddle"></gl-emoji> counter might be influenced by that (while the actual discussion wouldn't be).</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547280" id="note_547280" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547280/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547280"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/NoraCodes" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/034a47abb43659aba14fef3ff0eff17c" alt="Leonora Tindall" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/034a47abb43659aba14fef3ff0eff17c?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/NoraCodes" data-user-id="12207" data-username="NoraCodes" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">Leonora Tindall</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@NoraCodes</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547280" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 4, 2019 10:59pm UTC">22 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:421" dir="auto">This
 is a side note, but I have to say, I find it hard to believe you're 
acting in good faith here. You've shown up in two discussions of what 
seemed, to me, pretty clear, black and white discussions about proposed 
changes to software, and tried to derail them - first trying to make the
 Tusky rickroll discussion about "free speech", which was never at 
issue, and now trying to throw doubt on the validity of this issue.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:422" dir="auto">The only people who are going to <em>sign up for a Gitlab account</em>
 in order to comment or thumbs-up are people who care enough about this 
software to do so. Maybe the use it; maybe they don't, because they 
can't. As I've pointed out, there are organizations (my own alma mater 
Beloit among them) that flat-out don't use it because of the name. 
Either way, their opinion is important, since they are affected by this 
decision.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:331" dir="auto">In addition, by trying to 
restrict this conversation to only "community members" and then move the
 discussion into whether or not the use of the name is currently hurting
 people, you <em>guarantee</em> that you'll be essentially unopposed - 
if people find the name bad or harmful, they're not likely to be 
community members, now are they?</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko, tastytea, zyphlar, Ghost User, Ben Lubar, Maoschanz, raine, Haché, mike castleman, Luna Lapin, and 9 more."><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:333">In addition, by trying to restrict this 
conversation to only "community members" and then move the discussion 
into whether or not the use of the name is currently hurting people, you
 <em>guarantee</em> that you'll be essentially unopposed - if people 
find the name bad or harmful, they're not likely to be community 
members, now are they?</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:91" dir="auto">I'm... not trying to do that.  I was just mentioning that this thread was linked elsewhere.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Giacomo Tesio, Gabriel Lima, Tim Stahel, Wesley Bliss, Andrew Karstaedt, and Nyerguds"><span>
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 some people attempt to read meaning into the name isn't an issue. It's 
The GIMP. That's an acronym. It's pretty well known at this point.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Hugo, Gabriel Lima, Fehér Roland Ádám, Tim Stahel, Jose C, Andrew Karstaedt, snintendog, and Nyerguds"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="1:3-5:28">The only people who are going to sign up for a Gitlab account in order to comment or thumbs-up are
people who care enough about this software to do so. Maybe the use it; maybe they don't, because they
can't. As I've pointed out, there are organizations (my own alma mater Beloit among them) that
flat-out don't use it because of the name. Either way, their opinion is important, since they are
affected by this decision.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="7:1-7:110" dir="auto">There are two reasons people would create accounts in order to comment on this, or otherwise provide feedback.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="9:1-9:272" dir="auto">One of them is that they care 
about this software. The other is that they want to help a friend get 
their change in, or have otherwise joined in on the social media 
bandwagon. It is best not to assume that people are acting only with the
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<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:112">There are two reasons people would create accounts in order to comment on this, or otherwise provide feedback.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:3-3:274">One of them is that they care about this 
software. The other is that they want to help a friend get their change 
in, or have otherwise joined in on the social media bandwagon. It is 
best not to assume that people are acting only with the interests of the
 software in mind.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:268" dir="auto">Yet, you seem to assume that 
anyone who may be commenting is just doing so, "to help a friend get 
their change in, or have otherwise joined in on the social media 
bandwagon."  But then, it's only right to not assume, when the 
assumption is against your desired belief.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko and dwkretz"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:62" dir="auto">Oh wait...  No I didn't.  So...  Um...  Er..  I'm baffled...</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:128" dir="auto">I mean, your implication is I quoted you out of context, yet...  Um, er, I quoted your <em>entire</em> message (not what you quoted).</p>
<p data-sourcepos="7:1-7:32" dir="auto">I think...  OK...  No problem...</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko and dwkretz"><span>
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 for this. I've been using gimp for over a decade. I think purity tests 
in this discussion are in really poor taste. Can we not assume good 
faith, and move forward on the merits of the arguments?</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko, Gabriel Lima, Tim Pickard, Tim Stahel, Wesley Bliss, zappedfish, and snintendog"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:165" dir="auto">There are two accounts which 
seem to have been created specifically to derail the discussion here.  
Both have been created apparently specifically to comment here.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:160" dir="auto">I initially created this 
account because I felt that this was worth discussing, and trying to 
find out exactly how the dev team would respond and consider this.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="7:1-7:147" dir="auto">I believe in a lot of ways, we 
have seen exactly that.  It has been a simple rejection of the issue, 
and no attempt to address any of the concerns.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="9:1-9:181" dir="auto">The developers have been 
respectful regarding this, while they could be more respectful about 
this, and actually consider the arguments, and see what it is that the 
community wants.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="11:1-11:203" dir="auto">This also is an issue which 
has come up before (as you have noted) and the dev team has felt that it
 has come up often enough to add it to the FAQ, and say flatly that they
 will not consider changing it.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="13:1-13:151" dir="auto">Which maybe, it would be 
"right" to simply accept their decision in this regard, but several 
issues have been brought up which are totally unaddressed.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="15:1-15:116" dir="auto">It's relatively unclear what your position on this is, but I do believe there is an indication as to your leaning.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="17:1-17:241" dir="auto">There's a claim by the dev 
team that in a way they are, "reclaiming" the word, yet apparently 
others have made it clear that the dev team has decided to use this word
 in a way which I'm pretty sure no one would consider to be <em>respectful</em>.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="19:1-19:222" dir="auto">It's quite true, that people 
could, "fork it" but in order to do so, it requires more than a basic 
ability to handle programming.  Especially if we expect that forking to 
actually produce something reasonable to compete.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="21:1-21:258" dir="auto">That actually may be a 
worthwhile way to get changes here, as I believe in other projects, the 
forking has resulted in the forked from project to actually change.  
Even when the dev-team of the forked project can't realistically keep up
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 one way or another, a name change should be effected. With this issue 
closed, the right answer is probably to maintain a minimal diff to 
change the name, and periodically merge from upstream to incorporate new
 features. Since the whole point of denying the issue seems to be that 
the devs don't want to touch the branding parts of the codebase, it 
should just be a fastforward each time.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Scott"><span>
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 it seems like you could do it, and believe that it would be a good 
idea.  At least this is what your response seems to be.  I think that <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/BrainBlasted" data-user="642" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="Christopher Davis">@BrainBlasted</a>
 raised the issue as a developer of the project, to avoid having to do 
so, though I believe would be quite capable of doing so.  I'd <em>like</em>
 to see the rest of the team actually discuss this.  Which I see that 
the only other (as far as I can see) team members who have simply 
dismissed it, one referring to the FAQ, and one simply saying, "no won't
 happen."</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:233" dir="auto">This is <em>not</em> the kind 
of issue where I have been able to see a fork ending up getting traction
 for.  So I can't really say that the dev team actually have much reason
 to "fear" that someone would take their project away from them.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:366" dir="auto">Heck, OpenOffice, SQL-Ledger, 
MySQL are all active, despite the fact that they have unaddressed 
issues, which caused people to jump ship quickly when a fork happened.  A
 name change certainly wouldn't cause many to jump ship at all.  But it <em>might</em> be enough for the people who are in a position where they have been told, "no we can't use that because of the name."</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko and dwkretz"><span>
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 As the FAQ says it has come up before, I would assume that it has 
actually come up before. It is very rare, in my experience, for FAQ 
entries to be created based on lies.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:190" dir="auto">Perhaps a link to the 
discussion which took place previously should be provided in the FAQ 
entry so that people can understand the reasoning beyond what is 
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 I never said anything about the FAQ being "based on lies."  What you 
have said, is that it has been addressed, and that this thread has 
addressed it.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:247" dir="auto">The link in the discussion which has been shared, does nothing really to address these issues either.  In fact the <em>issue</em> which it referred to was to <em>not</em> use the GNU Image Manipulation Program as the "name" of the program, rather to use GIMP.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:138" dir="auto">But then...  You clearly knew 
that, because you're being good faith, and have already checked that out
 to see what was being said there.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="7:1-7:165" dir="auto">But then, if you <em>did</em> know that...  Then you would know that it fails to address anything here.  And wouldn't that mean that you are <em>clearly</em> arguing in bad faith?</p>
<p data-sourcepos="9:1-9:288" dir="auto">Either you didn't know that, 
and then just assumed that it was addressing these issues.  And maybe 
just are not really caring a whole lot about what <em>is</em> being 
addressed, and what is not, as long as the progressives don't get their 
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<p data-sourcepos="3:3-5:25">Finally, if you still have strong feelings about the name “GIMP”, you should feel free to promote the
use of the long form GNU Image Manipulation Program or maintain your own releases of the software
under a different name.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:3-3:19">To quote the FAQ:</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="5:5-5:231">Finally, if you still have strong feelings
 about the name “GIMP”, you should feel free to promote the use of the 
long form GNU Image Manipulation Program or maintain your own releases 
of the software under a different name.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="7:1-7:216" dir="auto">Can you explain why it is that 
saying this over and over again is valid?  Is there something in your 
logic, "if I have said it once, and it has been rejected as valid, 
saying it again, will eventually make it valid"?</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="dwkretz"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:3-5:37">The link in the discussion which has been shared, does nothing really to address these issues either.
In fact the <em>issue</em> which it referred to was to <em>not</em> use the GNU Image Manipulation Program as the "name"
of the program, rather to use GIMP.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:3-3:66">This was a response to your comment. The following is incorrect.</p>
<blockquote data-sourcepos="5:3-5:244">
<p data-sourcepos="5:5-5:244">The link in the discussion which has been 
shared, does nothing really to address these issues either. In fact the 
issue which it referred to was to not use the GNU Image Manipulation 
Program as the "name" of the program, rather to use GIMP.</p>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<p data-sourcepos="7:1-7:25" dir="auto">and what I refer to is:</p>
<p data-sourcepos="9:1-9:65" dir="auto"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/merge_requests/82#note_518448" data-original="https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/merge_requests/82#note_518448" data-link="false" data-link-reference="true" data-project="1848" data-merge-request="14132" data-project-path="GNOME/gimp" data-iid="82" data-mr-title="Change desktop name to &quot;GIMP&quot;" data-reference-type="merge_request" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" title="" class="gfm gfm-merge_request" data-mr-listener-added="true">!82 (comment 518448)</a></p>
<p data-sourcepos="11:1-11:41" dir="auto">Which is an merge request with the title:</p>
<p data-sourcepos="13:1-13:29" dir="auto">Change desktop name to "GIMP"</p>
<p data-sourcepos="15:1-15:110" dir="auto">Can you explain how (based on this further clarification of what I am referring to) my statement is incorrect?</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="dwkretz"><span>
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 it clarifies your issue, as to why we should not change it...  But...  
It is not accurate, because it is "an unrelated ticket, about the 
.desktop file(s) associated with The GIMP."</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:175" dir="auto">How can it be a justification 
for not changing the name of the thing, and also be irrelevant when a 
person explains that it argues exactly the opposite of what you are 
saying.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:129" dir="auto">You have made it <em>very</em> clear that it is relevant when it supports your point, and irrelevant when it supports the contrapoint.</p>
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 clarifies the response to this ticket. The other issue that you linked 
is unrelated. We are talking about two different things here. Sorry for 
the confusion.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <div class="note_edited_ago edited-text">
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<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:83">I disagree. There is an action to reclaim the word, namely, this software itself.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:3-3:100">the only way the connotation can actually shift is if the people hurt by it reclaim it themselves.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:92" dir="auto">The developers of this software are not the people being hurt by the slur. Please rename it.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="7:1-7:265" dir="auto">I habitually already call the 
software the "GNU IMP", to avoid the harm its actual name causes. It'd 
probably be more effective to use a name that <em>can't</em> be abbreviated harmfully though, if the name is to actually be changed. I quite like the "GNU PIE" suggestion.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <div class="note_edited_ago edited-text">
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 if it's "still" a slur and that's not a useful argument to have. The 
useful argument is whether or not the name is affecting adoption, and 
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 Raster Image Program for Editing", or GRIPE, might be a nice new name 
too. Easy to pronounce, harmless, and has the bonus of clarifying that 
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 would argue that, indeed, this is regarding a behaviour of the software
 - throwing up a massive splashscreen with a slur on it, among other 
things - that makes it harder to use, as I outlined above. That's a bug 
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 doesn't stop it from throwing up GIMP in huge letters on the projector 
when a teacher uses it in class, nor from an administrator going to the 
website and seeing a word legal doesn't like. Are they in the right? I 
don't care. It means we miss out on the educational market, and that's a
 huuuuge issue. People trained on Photoshop are gonna use Photoshop.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko, verdre, amy smith, Christopher Davis, zyphlar, Ghost User, Ben Lubar, raine, Haché, Luna Lapin, and 4 more."><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:71">or maintain your own releases of the software under a different name.</p>
</blockquote>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:186" dir="auto">So that we end up with 
potentially an infinite amount of different names for one software? If 
the devs seriously don't want to rename it officially, at least provide 
an alternative name.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="dwkretz"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:216" dir="auto">Yes, this will assist the 
educators looking to provide a free alternatives, but have little or no 
experience programming or localizing or fiddling with the bits that will
 need fiddling with in order to change a name.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:226" dir="auto">Why is this so precious in the 
minds of the devs and users then? Those who are against it, that is, tha
 this name is worth defending in spite of a very long history of it 
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<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:188">So that we end up with potentially an 
infinite amount of different names for one software? If the devs 
seriously don't want to rename it officially, at least provide an 
alternative name.</p>
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 are not engaging with the issue, which again, makes me think you just 
want to keep the name because you, personally, don't think it's a 
problem.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:309" dir="auto"><strong>Whatever I personally call it does not stop someone from seeing a slur on the splash screen, on the homepage, and in the UI.</strong>
 You may think they are overreacting, but that doesn't reduce the effect
 that their reaction will have if they are an administrator, lawyer, 
professor, or professional photographer.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:112" dir="auto">You may disagree with me - fine. But let's at least agree on what the problem is and not try to skirt around it.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <div class="note_edited_ago edited-text">
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:213" dir="auto">Mouthful, cannot be typed at 
all in a terminal (launching or installation), probably doesn't fit in 
some of the UI elements. Also this is litterally the description of it 
in many distros, so litterally not a name.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko and Ghost User"><span>
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 Yes, I disagree, both in that it's a slur, and even if it was a slur, 
that it would be a problem.  Words can be used in multiple contexts.  
For example, saying "Niger" to refer to the color black isn't racist, 
nor is using it to refer to the country racist, even though the word is 
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 yes, they're phonetically the same word, though.  I was also only 
giving an example of how words could have multiple meanings, even if one
 was offensive.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <div class="note_edited_ago edited-text">
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 if it were the case that "Niger" was pronounced the same as the racial 
slur to which you're referring, that wouldn't be a good example, because
 I absolutely guarantee few people would use software that, when they 
said its name, made them seem like a racist to anyone in the vicinity.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:94" dir="auto">A strikingly similar situation to the one we currently find ourselves in, as a matter of fact.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko, Haelwenn Monnier, Ben Lubar, Ghost User, raine, Luna Lapin, and Dag Ågren"><span>
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 whether or not you think it's a slur doesn't matter for this 
discussion. People do; many of the people who make big decisions about 
whether to use this software or not do. That has a negative impact on 
adoption, and indeed, on existing users who are told not to use it 
because of the name.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:282" dir="auto">Whether you want to believe 
that this is true or not, it happens; I've seen it. I've been the person
 who suggests using free image editing tools and as soon as I get to 
"Inkscape, Krita, and GIMP are the best in class for vector, raster 
drawing, and raster editing" I get shut down.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:228" dir="auto">These people do not care about 
your rationales for using the name, and because it's way easier to 
change the name of software than convince the entire world that this 
word isn't a slur, that seems like the best course of action.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko, Danielle McLean, tastytea, Maoschanz, raine, and Luna Lapin"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:284">Whether you want to believe that this is 
true or not, it happens; I've seen it. I've been the person who suggests
 using free image editing tools and as soon as I get to "Inkscape, 
Krita, and GIMP are the best in class for vector, raster drawing, and 
raster editing" I get shut down.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:101" dir="auto">If someone would rather pay hundreds of dollars due to childish avoidance of a name, it's their loss.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="John Harris, Gabriel Lima, Scott, Tim Stahel, Wesley Bliss, and Annie May"><span>
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 thanks for making it so abundantly clear that you only care about 
replacing proprietary software with free software as long as you can 
pointlessly hurt and alienate potential users and
contributors in the process. I guess I missed that part of the Free 
Software Definiton - is that freedom -1?</p></div> <!----> <!----> <div class="note_edited_ago edited-text">
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 I care about getting people to use free software, but I also care about
 changing free software in the free software way.  If you don't like the
 name GIMP, and you think you could improve the software by making a 
better name, fork it, change the name, add new features, and if your 
fork is better, it'll replace GIMP.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Gabriel Lima, Scott, Wesley Bliss, and Annie May"><span>
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 spent a long time recently explaining to us why LGBT teenagers should 
be happy that all their social media posts permanently archived and why 
it's bad for an open source app to make its own decisions when deciding 
which nationalist websites it won't allow you to connect to.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Florian Piesche and zappedfish"><span>
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 "If you don't like it, fork it" is beloved by people like you because 
it means you don't have to do anything in response to legitimate 
criticism. It's a cheap, lazy escape, and it's beneath any developer 
worth their salt.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Luna Lapin, Florian Piesche, Benaiah Mischenko, tastytea, and zappedfish"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:133" dir="auto"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/joyeusenoelle" data-user="21720" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="Noëlle Anthony">@joyeusenoelle</a> It's not the developer's job to do what you want.  Make a request, sure, but at the end of the day, it's their choice.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Gabriel Lima, Scott, Wesley Bliss, and Annie May"><span>
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 don't see a problem so shut up", and that's stupid and lazy. Your 
perspective is not the only perspective. You are not automatically 
Correct just because you contributed code. You don't get to spend the 
whole day shutting people down and then put on your halo and say "well, 
you can make a request". You've made it clear that no, we can't, you're 
just going to pretend that there isn't an issue so you don't have to 
deal with it. You're a coward and a bad developer, and I'm done with 
your software.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko and zappedfish"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:3-3:39">I haven't contributed anything to it.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:21" dir="auto">I don't understand...</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Scott"><span>
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 has attempted to garner the "authority" to do. As far as I'm aware, he 
has not attempted to speak on behalf of the project, and simply stated 
his opinion, the same as I.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Scott and Wesley Bliss"><span>
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 created your accounts within less than 48 hours, yet both are claiming 
that, "no one would create an account to promote what we are promoting."</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:206" dir="auto">I know that I have also created
 this account recently, but isn't it odd that the two people who are 
complaining that it's just people to promote a certain social justice 
agenda that would create accounts...</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:118" dir="auto">I don't know who else may have created their accounts, as I've had no reason to believe that they did so in bad faith.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko"><span>
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 Hi, this topic is quite delicate, as such please do an extra effort and
 research before making these statements. There is not need to repeat 
your opinion either, I think it has been clearly stated already. Just so
 the conversation is kept civil.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:196" dir="auto"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/joyeusenoelle" data-user="21720" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="Noëlle Anthony">@joyeusenoelle</a>
 Hi, I know is hard to participate in such delicate topic without 
getting frustrated. However, getting personal is not acceptable. So 
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 his own admission, BrainBlasted has not contributed to GIMP itself 
either. Most people in this thread have not actually contributed to The 
GIMP, myself included.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="dwkretz"><span>
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 I understand that you may do that, but when you look at your profile 
under "contributed projects" it lists you as a contributor to GIMP.  So,
 I'm not quite sure how I am to interpret that without much deeper 
looking into it.  And, I wouldn't really know how to realistically look 
into it.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:253" dir="auto">I have worked on projects, 
updated code, but the commit wasn't under my name.  The extent that it 
might show up on my profile, is as a forked project.  I do trust you 
understand your contribution, but I'm not sure how I would have been 
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<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:285">Whether you want to believe that this is 
true or not, it happens; I've seen it. I've been the person who suggests
 using free image editing tools and as soon as I get to "Inkscape, 
Krita, and GIMP are the best in class for vector, raster drawing, and 
raster editing" I get shut down.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:372" dir="auto">Have you ever considered that 
maybe... just maybe, the reason why GIMP isn't as widely used as 
proprietary software (and this goes for other products like After 
Effects, Maya or 3DS Max) is that open source software tends not to be 
on par? Professionals don't use GIMP not because "muh offensive name" 
but because it's inferior to the tools they are already accustomed to.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:233" dir="auto">Instead of writing a forum post
 on a bug tracking website complaining about the programs acronym why 
not actually contribute a feature or two and help to develop it so more 
people will consider using it instead of pirating Photoshop?</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko, tastytea, and dwkretz"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:134">Professionals don't use GIMP not because 
"muh offensive name" but because it's inferior to the tools they are 
already accustomed to.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:268" dir="auto"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/NoraCodes" data-user="12207" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="Leonora Tindall">@NoraCodes</a>
 has provided her experience which says that yes, the name is a major 
prohibiting factor. Multiple people have provided similar experiences. 
While yes there is an issue of it having less function than proprietary 
software, the issue of the name still exists.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <div class="note_edited_ago edited-text">
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 is one anecdote. There are countless others who simply install the 
software through their package manager, or who request that their 
sysadmin install the software through a package manager, and it's done. 
They then simply use the software, without regard for the name.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko and dwkretz"><span>
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 I guess my point was, "how was I supposed to be able to know this"?  
And your response failed to actually explain anything about that.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547542" id="note_547542" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547542/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547542"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/BrainBlasted" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/avatar_005.png" alt="Christopher Davis" data-src="https://gitlab.gnome.org/uploads/-/system/user/avatar/642/avatar.png?width=40" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/BrainBlasted" data-user-id="642" data-username="BrainBlasted" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">Christopher Davis</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@BrainBlasted</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547542" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 8:09am UTC">13 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><span class="note-role user-access-role">Developer</span> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:110" dir="auto">I was just clarifying it for you to clear things up. It's a failing on GitLab's part for not being more clear.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547558" id="note_547558" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547558/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547558"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/mircodezorzi" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/6fc758130f26df9c9618a5d5376cc85b" alt="Mirco De Zorzi" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/6fc758130f26df9c9618a5d5376cc85b?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/mircodezorzi" data-user-id="21745" data-username="mircodezorzi" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">Mirco De Zorzi</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@mircodezorzi</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547558" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 8:24am UTC">13 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-3:90" dir="auto">As <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JohnMH" data-user="21735" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="John Harris">@JohnMH</a>
 pointed out, anyone who actually gets work done doesn't care about the 
name of a software.
The most vocal people on this thread who are pushing for the "GIMPs 
rebranding" (which would end up hurting the little recognition the 
program has managed to gain over the years) haven't contributed a single
 line of code to the project, I've would have understood a developer 
that who had spend years working on this project, seeing all his effort 
go to waste because of programs name...
You on the other hand, are complaining for what reason, people are 
getting offended? Who?</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:184" dir="auto">I'd even argue that most to of 
the people who for some reason use GIMP don't even know what the word 
really means, even I didn't know it was a "derogatory" term before this 
discussion.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="7:1-7:40" dir="auto">Also how is this definition "offensive"?</p>
<blockquote data-sourcepos="8:1-8:90" dir="auto">
<p data-sourcepos="8:3-8:90">Usually Disparaging and Offensive. a term used to refer to a person who limps or is lame</p>
</blockquote>
<p data-sourcepos="10:1-10:141" dir="auto">And please don't reply with 
"read the urban dictionary definition", if you go by that websites 
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 then, it goes back to what I said earlier. It's not like the software 
is calling the user a gimp. The software itself is The GIMP, The GNU 
Image Manipulation Program.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Gabriel Lima and Wesley Bliss"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="1:2-1:236">The most vocal people on this thread who 
are pushing for the "GIMPs rebranding" (which would end up hurting the 
little recognition the program has managed to gain over the years) 
haven't contributed a single line of code to the project</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:172" dir="auto">Calling it GNU IMP (or GnuIMP 
or any way you prefer to write it) wouldn't hurt brand recognition, and 
at the very least it wouldn't be the name of a very weird pornhub tag.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:144" dir="auto">And there is no need to 
contribute during 10 years to notice this. The validity of users' 
concerns is not linked to their level of contribution.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <div class="note_edited_ago edited-text">
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 pros and cons here seem obvious. There will be some loss of brand 
recognition, though I suspect that's overstated, especially if you use 
GNU IMP or something similar. There will be some amount of dev effort, 
with which I'm happy to help, as I'm sure are others.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:381" dir="auto">On the other hand, a certain 
segment of the population who wasn't exposed to the software will be; 
people who actively don't like that word won't be faced with it every 
time the go to edit an image (and, yes, such people do exist, no matter 
how much you don't like it), and it'll be much easier to talk about in 
professional contexts, potentially opening the userbase up even more.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko, Florian Piesche, Danielle McLean, and dwkretz"><span>
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 you can call it "GNU IMP" right now, if you want. GIMP is just an 
acronym for the full name, "GNU Image Manipulation Program".</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547437" id="note_547437" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547437/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547437"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/ghost" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/4249f4df72b475e7894fabed1c5888cf" alt="Ghost User" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4249f4df72b475e7894fabed1c5888cf?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/ghost" data-user-id="51" data-username="ghost" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">Ghost User</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@ghost</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547437" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 5:41am UTC">15 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:107" dir="auto">Can we just call it "ACWAN"...  Would that be equally valid to you, because it seems to be very clear that:</p>
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  </span></li> <li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547325" id="note_547325" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547325/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547325"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/NoraCodes" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/034a47abb43659aba14fef3ff0eff17c" alt="Leonora Tindall" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/034a47abb43659aba14fef3ff0eff17c?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/NoraCodes" data-user-id="12207" data-username="NoraCodes" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">Leonora Tindall</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@NoraCodes</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547325" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 4, 2019 11:27pm UTC">22 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:40" dir="auto">I'd like to be clear about this, <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/mitch" data-user="202" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="Michael Natterer">@mitch</a>.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:230" dir="auto">You're being presented with 
people telling you that it harms adoption; that it makes them less 
likely to use the software; that it makes the software unusable in many 
professional situations. You're deciding you're O.K. with that.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:218" dir="auto">Which seriously seems like a 
lack of care of the issue, like not trying at all. Which can be 
understandable as it's in the FAQ but still, if it shows regularly then 
it's even more proof that it's a significant concern.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Christopher Davis, zyphlar, Ghost User, Maoschanz, raine, Tao Bojlén, and dwkretz"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="2:3-2:56">we changed this intentionally away from saying "GIMP".</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="4:1-4:83" dir="auto">Why, if it's not a problem that it's named GIMP? I don't understand the logic here.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547653" id="note_547653" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547653/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547653"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/mitch" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/c4be0a08c8dbe8c43008f1eacab3f979" alt="Michael Natterer" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/c4be0a08c8dbe8c43008f1eacab3f979?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/mitch" data-user-id="202" data-username="mitch" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">Michael Natterer</span> <span><span class="user-status-emoji has-tooltip" title="" data-html="true" data-placement="top"><gl-emoji title="sleeping face" data-name="sleeping" data-unicode-version="6.1"><img class="emoji" title=":sleeping:" alt=":sleeping:" src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/sleeping-1050a011509b56735c9f30a6fccc876256e2a4546dc6052e518.png" width="20" height="20" align="absmiddle"></gl-emoji></span></span> <span class="note-headline-light">@mitch</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547653" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 10:49am UTC">10 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><span class="note-role user-access-role">Maintainer</span> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:48" dir="auto">Because it's also called "Files" not "Nautilus".</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:151" dir="auto">"GIMP" and "Nautilus" mean 
nothing to new users, "GNU Image Manipulation Program" and "Files" are 
better names to present to people who don't know yet.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547666" id="note_547666" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547666/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547666"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/hadess" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/f6fb75c0fdf12f4221e4925468ee7c3d" alt="Bastien Nocera" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/f6fb75c0fdf12f4221e4925468ee7c3d?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/hadess" data-user-id="525" data-username="hadess" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">Bastien Nocera</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@hadess</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547666" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 10:56am UTC">10 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><span class="note-role user-access-role">Developer</span> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><blockquote data-sourcepos="1:1-1:153" dir="auto">
<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:153">"GIMP" and "Nautilus" mean nothing to new 
users, "GNU Image Manipulation Program" and "Files" are better names to 
present to people who don't know yet.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:209" dir="auto">The name "Nautilus" doesn't appear anywhere in nautilus' UI UI, unlike "GIMP" which appears <em>a lot</em> in its UI. I also maintain an application with a "codename". That codename doesn't appear anywhere in the UI.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547683" id="note_547683" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547683/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547683"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/mitch" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/c4be0a08c8dbe8c43008f1eacab3f979" alt="Michael Natterer" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/c4be0a08c8dbe8c43008f1eacab3f979?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/mitch" data-user-id="202" data-username="mitch" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">Michael Natterer</span> <span><span class="user-status-emoji has-tooltip" title="" data-html="true" data-placement="top"><gl-emoji title="sleeping face" data-name="sleeping" data-unicode-version="6.1"><img class="emoji" title=":sleeping:" alt=":sleeping:" src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/sleeping-1050a011509b56735c9f30a6fccc876256e2a4546dc6052e518.png" width="20" height="20" align="absmiddle"></gl-emoji></span></span> <span class="note-headline-light">@mitch</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547683" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 11:01am UTC">10 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><span class="note-role user-access-role">Maintainer</span> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:173" dir="auto">Once
 you opened GIMP you have found the image editor, no need to clutter the
 interface with "GNU Image Manipulation Program". This change was just 
made for the desktop file.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547706" id="note_547706" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547706/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547706"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/hadess" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/f6fb75c0fdf12f4221e4925468ee7c3d" alt="Bastien Nocera" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/f6fb75c0fdf12f4221e4925468ee7c3d?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/hadess" data-user-id="525" data-username="hadess" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">Bastien Nocera</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@hadess</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547706" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 11:11am UTC">10 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><span class="note-role user-access-role">Developer</span> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:41" dir="auto">OK, so <em>not</em> like "Nautilus" at all then.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547707" id="note_547707" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547707/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547707"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/BrainBlasted" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/avatar_005.png" alt="Christopher Davis" data-src="https://gitlab.gnome.org/uploads/-/system/user/avatar/642/avatar.png?width=40" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/BrainBlasted" data-user-id="642" data-username="BrainBlasted" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">Christopher Davis</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@BrainBlasted</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547707" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 11:12am UTC">10 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><span class="note-role user-access-role">Developer</span> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><blockquote data-sourcepos="1:1-1:127" dir="auto">
<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:127">Once you opened GIMP you have found the image editor, no need to clutter the interface with "GNU Image Manipulation Program".</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:80" dir="auto">At that point the user has found the program, and the program is full of a slur.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <div class="note_edited_ago edited-text">
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 is not just my opinion, but an actual dictionary usage of the word 
"gimp". That is a fact. You feel that it is not a slur in this case, but
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That's a non-issue, in my opinion.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547762" id="note_547762" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547762/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547762"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JohnMH" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/997862431951bde414e539e5feb02e49" alt="John Harris" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/997862431951bde414e539e5feb02e49?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JohnMH" data-user-id="21735" data-username="JohnMH" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">John Harris</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@JohnMH</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547762" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 11:35am UTC">9 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:78" dir="auto">When you say "Open GIMP", for example, a user knows what you're talking about.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547763" id="note_547763" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547763/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547763"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/BrainBlasted" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/avatar_005.png" alt="Christopher Davis" data-src="https://gitlab.gnome.org/uploads/-/system/user/avatar/642/avatar.png?width=40" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/BrainBlasted" data-user-id="642" data-username="BrainBlasted" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">Christopher Davis</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@BrainBlasted</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547763" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 11:35am UTC">9 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><span class="note-role user-access-role">Developer</span> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:35" dir="auto">Because you are not affected by it.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item 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note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547764" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 11:36am UTC">9 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:77" dir="auto">According to this very thread, neither are people who self-identify as gimps.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:159" dir="auto">I asked earlier when you 
mentioned that some people are "harmed" by reading the name. Is that 
what you're referring to? If so, how exactly is the name harmful?</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li></ul> <div class="discussion-reply-holder"><a href="" class="user-avatar-link d-none d-sm-block"><span><img src="data:image/png;base64,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" alt="" data-src="data:image/png;base64,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" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a> <!----> <!----> <div class="disabled-comment text-center">
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:121" dir="auto">It's clear that the developers and maintainers <em>don't care about this or, in general, about the concerns of their users</em>.</p>
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 Do those GNOME people have any say in the name or is this just another 
waste of everyone's time? I use GIMP - Green Is My Pepper - all the time
 so I care about that. I don't use GNOME or any of those unusable 
menu-less GNOME "don't theme our" apps. I am genuinely curious as to why
 those people are debating the name. GIMP's got menus like sane non-toy 
software so it does not look like it's a GNOME "app".</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Romain F. T."><span>
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 has become common, with the last few years, to go for quick "social 
justice wins". Many projects have been affected by this, from the Linux 
kernel itself to various distributions. This is no different from having
 Jenkins remove "master" and "slave" terminology.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:181" dir="auto">There are a subset of 
developers, and even non-developers, who have hopped on this bandwagon 
in order to further a political agenda, rather than contributing to the 
software itself.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <div class="note_edited_ago edited-text">
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 you explain why it is wrong to make changes to have better acceptance 
of all the potential users who would consider a piece of software.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:91" dir="auto">I mean, you argue that this is a bad thing.  Can you explain how it is an actual bad thing?</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Romain F. T., Benaiah Mischenko, and dwkretz"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:144" dir="auto">If people have an issue with 
the name, explain to them that it is an acronym, or refer to it by its 
full name. This avoids the issue altogether.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547451" id="note_547451" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547451/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547451"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/falkreon" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/cfbb7f4b58f9d3f31ef7a746ba30c330" alt="Falkreon" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/cfbb7f4b58f9d3f31ef7a746ba30c330?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/falkreon" data-user-id="21738" data-username="falkreon" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">Falkreon</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@falkreon</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547451" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 6:03am UTC">15 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:238" dir="auto">Explaining
 to a differently-abled person why they should or should not be offended
 based on the expansion of an acronym feels like an exercise in futility
 to me. Fact: people are offended. The question was, what's the <em>cost</em> of fixing it?</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko, tastytea, zappedfish, and dwkretz"><span>
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 Yet, not one of the concerns which have been raised is actually 
addressed there.  But I can see that you are quite right.  It does 
explain everything needed as to understanding why it is that this change
 is not being made.  Which probably should simply say:</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-4:8" dir="auto">WORKS_FOR_ME
WONT_FIX</p>
<p data-sourcepos="6:1-6:118" dir="auto">Many examples of why it doesn't work for certain people have been expressed, nothing has gone beyond that explanation.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko and dwkretz"><span>
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 how many disabled people do you know?  How many of those use the term 
"differently-abled"?  I'm disabled.  I'm not a "differently-abled 
person".  I've met no one who uses the phrase, "differently-abled 
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 I can definitely understand how one might see this issue in that way, 
however this issue was only closed so quickly because it has, according 
to the FAQ, been addressed many times previously.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547467" id="note_547467" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547467/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547467"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/falkreon" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/cfbb7f4b58f9d3f31ef7a746ba30c330" alt="Falkreon" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/cfbb7f4b58f9d3f31ef7a746ba30c330?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/falkreon" data-user-id="21738" data-username="falkreon" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">Falkreon</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@falkreon</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547467" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 6:24am UTC">15 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:331" dir="auto"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/jigme.datse" data-user="21716" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku">@jigme.datse</a>
 More purity tests, which is a yawn for me. If "disabled" works best for
 you, that's great. I see a lot of autism spectrum and depression in the
 course of my travels, where there can be a lot of sensitivity around 
pejorative constructions of their condition. But you're right, disabled 
probably makes more sense <em>here</em>.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547485" id="note_547485" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547485/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547485"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/ghost" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/4249f4df72b475e7894fabed1c5888cf" alt="Ghost User" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/4249f4df72b475e7894fabed1c5888cf?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/ghost" data-user-id="51" data-username="ghost" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">Ghost User</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@ghost</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547485" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 6:47am UTC">14 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:337" dir="auto"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JohnMH" data-user="21735" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="John Harris">@JohnMH</a> but has it been addressed ever?  The response was very much <em>not</em>
 addressing it.  The person who reported this is a developer, one person
 is a reporter, and the only input from them has been to link to, and 
quote the FAQ.  The maintainer simply said...  "Sorry, the name will not
 change, closing."  This is not "addressing" it.</p>
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 You've shown your hand clearly with that comment.  I'm not someone who 
is speaking as to "purity" only you are, but you are doing so as a 
rejection of what I have been saying.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:265" dir="auto">I am autistic.  I am not "on 
the autism spectrum" I don't "have autism spectrum".  You're "I see 
sensitivity" but oddly...  You're claiming that you see that, but your 
response is that of sensitive "supporters" not of members who actually 
experience these things.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="7:1-7:297" dir="auto">But clearly you know better 
than I do about these issues, because I'm just sensitive.  But you are 
clearly well informed.  My personal experience is not valid.  At least 
you don't seem to think it is, nor do you think anyone else who has 
commented that this actually is important to consider is...</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547488" id="note_547488" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547488/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547488"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/BrainBlasted" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/avatar_005.png" alt="Christopher Davis" data-src="https://gitlab.gnome.org/uploads/-/system/user/avatar/642/avatar.png?width=40" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/BrainBlasted" data-user-id="642" data-username="BrainBlasted" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">Christopher Davis</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@BrainBlasted</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547488" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 6:52am UTC">14 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><span class="note-role user-access-role">Developer</span> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:266" dir="auto"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/jigme.datse" data-user="21716" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku">@jigme.datse</a>
 let's not debate over the terms in this case, please. As someone else 
diagnosed with ASD, I have a different preference for how I like to 
frame it, e.g. I don't like the word autistic due to it's use as a slur.
 Some people also prefer differently-abled.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="snintendog"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:146">If people have an issue with the name, 
explain to them that it is an acronym, or refer to it by its full name. 
This avoids the issue altogether.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:179" dir="auto">As stated above, this does not 
cover the usage within the program at all. Disabled folks who are harmed
 by the slur see "GIMP" everywhere in the program rather than the full 
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 sorry, but how exactly is the name of this software harmful? If the 
software were calling the user a gimp, that'd be one thing. This is just
 an acronym, as shown on the splash screen, in Help -&gt; About and in 
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 I believe your "let's not debate over the terms in this case," 
basically invalidates your posted issue.  You are asking for exactly 
that, but when someone requests certain language around another issue, 
you feel it appropriate to correct them?  People who are affected by 
that language?</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Gabriel Lima"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:3-3:266">how many disabled people do you know? How 
many of those use the term "differently-abled"? I'm disabled. I'm not a 
"differently-abled person". I've met no one who uses the phrase, 
"differently-abled person" who isn't either very new to their 
disability, or is able.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:3" dir="auto">And</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="7:3-7:262">I am autistic. I am not "on the autism 
spectrum" I don't "have autism spectrum". You're "I see sensitivity" but
 oddly... You're claiming that you see that, but your response is that 
of sensitive "supporters" not of members who actually experience these 
things.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="9:1-9:208" dir="auto">Which implies that the 
alternative phrasings to autistic were not valid. I was responding by 
sharing that yes, these alternative phrasings are used by people they 
apply to - including me as a person with ASD.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="snintendog"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:304" dir="auto">I just want to mention some 
expectations. This topic is quite delicate, so please do an extra effort
 to do previous research, try to be extra empathetic, and in general 
threat other with respect and understanding. Here at GNOME we have high 
expectations for our communications, getting personal won't do.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:157" dir="auto">We  also use GitLab as an issue
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 least for me, the top search result for "GIMP" is this software, and 
there are no results for its offensive meaning until one on the third 
page. Heck, until today I didn't even <em>realize</em> this had another 
meaning. At this point, I don't think it would be a stretch to say the 
primary usage of the word is for the photo editor.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Gabriel Lima, Douman, Tim Stahel, Brady Killeen, Wesley Bliss, Annie May, and snintendog"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:115" dir="auto">(1) a derrogatory term for someone that is disabled or has a medicial problem that results in physical impairment.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:164" dir="auto">(2) An insult implying that 
someone is incompetent, stupid, etc. Can also be used to imply that the 
person is uncool or can't/won't do what everyone else is doing.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="7:1-7:87" dir="auto">(3) A sex slave or submissive, usually male, as popularlized by the movie Pulp Fiction.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="9:1-9:101" dir="auto">as the <em>4th</em> result.  Now, gimp, GIMP, and "GIMP" may well be good ways to get different result sets.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko, JordiGH, and dwkretz"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="1:3-2:46">"GIMP" does not give a hint towards the function of the app, and it's hard to market something that's
either used as an insult or a sex reference.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="4:1-4:169" dir="auto">I would like to quickly address
 this, as this is a primary point of the issue itself, and the GIMP 
maintainers have not actually addressed this, directly or in FAQ form.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="6:1-6:185" dir="auto">The GIMP is an acronym for The GNU Image Manipulation Program. As such, it is perfectly valid to say that GIMP <strong>does</strong> hint towards the function of the program: Manipulation of images.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Gabriel Lima, Tim Stahel, Wesley Bliss, Annie May, and snintendog"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:3-3:96">Acronyms are difficult to remember, and they end up pronounced instead of read as their parts.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:218" dir="auto">The average person will not 
take the effort to use the acronym, and will instead pronounce it. This 
means when you talk about GIMP the program, you say it as "gimp" the 
word - which has no connection to editing photos.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko and dwkretz"><span>
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 it's pronounced instead of "read as their parts" isn't really an issue.
 GNU is an acronym as well. Realistically, you say it as "GIMP", which 
refers to the name of the software. Or, as some people say it, "The 
GIMP".</p></div> <!----> <!----> <div class="note_edited_ago edited-text">
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 character. Still does not address the marketability issue. GNU is a 
non-offensive acronym, with no negative connotation associated with the 
animal "Gnu".</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:3-3:77">That it's pronounced instead of "read as their parts" isn't really an issue</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:159" dir="auto">It is, because how it's read is
 the first impression many get of it. Because "GIMP" reads as an ableist
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 are you suggesting that the BISON are upset that GNU is Not Unix?  Or 
that the gnu is?  I believe this is called a false equivalency.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547487" id="note_547487" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547487/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547487"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JohnMH" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/997862431951bde414e539e5feb02e49" alt="John Harris" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/997862431951bde414e539e5feb02e49?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JohnMH" data-user-id="21735" data-username="JohnMH" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">John Harris</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@JohnMH</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547487" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 6:52am UTC">14 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:277" dir="auto">Even
 if it is, I fail to see why that is, in itself, grounds to rename the 
project. This isn't really a "marketability" issue either, as the 
software has used the name for over two decades now, and is incredibly 
popular. It's in most of the major distros' default install sets.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:227" dir="auto">That "GNU" is a "non-offensive 
acronym" is your personal opinion, and, by that measure of subjectivity,
 it could be that somebody out there disagrees. Based on that possible 
disagreement, should we rename GNU while we're at it?</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:279" dir="auto">Obviously, I do not suggest 
doing that, but that's what this gets down to. At some point, everything
 could be offensive to somebody. The most common use of "GIMP", other 
than as an acronym for this very project, is as a sexual reference if 
anything, and not as an "ableist slur".</p>
<p data-sourcepos="7:1-7:216" dir="auto"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/jigme.datse" data-user="21716" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="Jigme Datse Yli-Rasku">@jigme.datse</a>
 This entire ticket is quite fallacious, including all of our responses 
with reasoning one way or the other. However, that is what you have to 
deal with when you encounter a subjective issue such as this.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Gabriel Lima, Douman, Tim Stahel, Wesley Bliss, Annie May, and snintendog"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:229">That "GNU" is a "non-offensive acronym" is
 your personal opinion, and, by that measure of subjectivity, it could 
be that somebody out there disagrees. Based on that possible 
disagreement, should we rename GNU while we're at it?</p>
</blockquote>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:382" dir="auto">This is not currently the case. We are talking about the here and now. The word "Gnu" has no <a href="https://www.dictionary.com/browse/gnu" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">dictionary</a> or <a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=GNU" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">popular</a> usage as an insult or slur. The word "gimp" is actively harmful to many <strong>today</strong>. Bringing hypotheticals into this situation is absolutely useless, and holds zero weight.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko, tastytea, and dwkretz"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:220">The average person will not take the 
effort to use the acronym, and will instead pronounce it. This means 
when you talk about GIMP the program, you say it as "gimp" the word - 
which has no connection to editing photos.</p>
</blockquote>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:69" dir="auto">If you go by that reasoning, and use urban dictionary as your source:</p>
<blockquote data-sourcepos="5:1-5:166" dir="auto">
<p data-sourcepos="5:3-5:166">verb; "to lamp;" To hang out, do nothing 
and smoke marijuana. Term can be explained by the inherent duites of a 
lamp: lamps stay in one place and light up (get it?)</p>
</blockquote>
<p data-sourcepos="7:1-7:271" dir="auto">So what do we do now? What if 
someone installs Linux + Apache + MySQL + PHP on the same computer? 
Should we change the name of all these programs? You can't just say "I 
do nothing and smoke marijuana" to your boss whenever he asks you how 
the server architecture works...</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="snintendog"><span>
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 My question if you see your own argument as fallacious, why are you so 
insistent on making it?  And so loudly?  I mean, it apparently doesn't 
matter to you one way or another.  So why argue so strongly, one way?</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:288" dir="auto">Is it maybe because it does 
matter to you in some fundamental way, that the progressives don't get 
their way?  Because you've made it clear that you <em>are</em> arguing 
in bad faith.  You don't believe your argument carries any weight, and 
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 is a subjective issue, hence the subjective responses. I would argue 
that the 'issue' itself is fallacious. I am trying to provide a logical 
response to that, but the original choice of name is, itself, a 
subjective decision. My argument is not based on the goal of keeping 
that name, but not changing the name from what it currently is. To 
clarify, I am not in favor of specifically the name GIMP, but I am not 
in favor of changing the name, as it would damage this software's 
marketability and SEO.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:152" dir="auto">I have no issue with "the 
progressives", and I don't actually know who you're referring to here, 
as that's a loaded term. I am not arguing in bad faith.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <div class="note_edited_ago edited-text">
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 You say that, you are not in favour of the name, but rather opposed to 
the changing of the name.  I could say that this is possibly more or 
less correct, except...  Do you use StarOffice?  Because it would have 
been wrong to change the name of that.  But as far as I know the name 
change for that was actually done pretty much from the original 
developers deciding to change the name.  It's possible that it "damaged 
their SEO" or some such thing, but honestly, I can't buy that argument. 
 Properly handled, that should be almost non-existent issue.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:82" dir="auto">You also state here that you have no issue with "the progressives".  Yet you said:</p>
<blockquote data-sourcepos="5:1-7:183" dir="auto">
<p data-sourcepos="5:3-5:266">It has become common, with the last few 
years, to go for quick "social justice wins". Many projects have been 
affected by this, from the Linux kernel itself to various distributions.
 This is no different from having Jenkins remove "master" and "slave" 
terminology.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="7:3-7:183">There are a subset of developers, and even
 non-developers, who have hopped on this bandwagon in order to further a
 political agenda, rather than contributing to the software itself.</p>
</blockquote>
<p data-sourcepos="9:1-9:245" dir="auto">So, care to rectify this.  
Because, I believe this quote makes it very clear you are opposed to 
"social justice wins".  I'm not exactly sure why you feel, "the 
progressives" first off, needs quotation marks, and second off, is a 
"loaded term".</p>
<p data-sourcepos="11:1-11:259" dir="auto">If you are not arguing in bad
 faith, then can you care to explain how you haven't been acting simply 
to derail the possibility of this change happening?  I do understand, 
that to you, "not arguing in bad faith" fits the description of what you
 are doing, but:</p>
<ol data-sourcepos="13:1-18:0" dir="auto">
<li data-sourcepos="13:1-13:154">You have claimed that issues have been 
addressed when you have been the only person, "addressing" them, and are
 certainly not a member of the dev team.</li>
<li data-sourcepos="14:1-14:183">Have stated that a link which was 
shared explains the issue further, when in fact it does no such thing, 
and justifies the changing <em>to</em> GIMP, which was rejected by the dev team.</li>
<li data-sourcepos="15:1-15:59">Only responded that you have no vested interest in this.</li>
<li data-sourcepos="16:1-16:94">Stated clearly that quick "social justice wins" are a problem in the open source community.</li>
<li data-sourcepos="17:1-18:0">Stated that you have no issue with "the progressives"</li>
</ol>
<p data-sourcepos="19:1-19:238" dir="auto">Basically, I don't see how you can be arguing in <em>good</em>
 faith.  So much of what you have said, or stated others have said is 
flat out contradictions.  Yet, apparently you're not arguing in bad 
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 this is off topic, it does relate in a roundabout way:
StarOffice was from the Sun Microsystems days. It then became 
OpenOffice, when Oracle purchased Sun. LibreOffice is a fork of 
OpenOffice, and OpenOffice still exists separately. I believe OpenOffice
 is under the Apache umbrella these days.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547519" id="note_547519" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547519/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547519"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JohnMH" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/997862431951bde414e539e5feb02e49" alt="John Harris" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/997862431951bde414e539e5feb02e49?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JohnMH" data-user-id="21735" data-username="JohnMH" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">John Harris</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@JohnMH</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547519" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 7:43am UTC">13 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:302" dir="auto">I
 see nothing to "rectify" there. I am not inherently opposed to "social 
justice wins", I simply explained this phenomena for another user. I do 
not believe that personal attacks have any place here. I have not 
attacked you, and I would appreciate it if you would do me the favor of 
responding in kind.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="amano jyaku, Gabriel Lima, Tim Stahel, and Wesley Bliss"><span>
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<blockquote data-sourcepos="3:1-3:302" dir="auto">
<p data-sourcepos="3:3-3:302">While this is off topic, it does relate in
 a roundabout way: StarOffice was from the Sun Microsystems days. It 
then became OpenOffice, when Oracle purchased Sun. LibreOffice is a fork
 of OpenOffice, and OpenOffice still exists separately. I believe 
OpenOffice is under the Apache umbrella these days.</p>
</blockquote>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:135" dir="auto">I was addressing your comment 
of how you see that changing the name would be a bad thing.  If my 
comment was off topic, so was yours.</p>
<blockquote data-sourcepos="7:1-7:304" dir="auto">
<p data-sourcepos="7:3-7:304">I see nothing to "rectify" there. I am not
 inherently opposed to "social justice wins", I simply explained this 
phenomena for another user. I do not believe that personal attacks have 
any place here. I have not attacked you, and I would appreciate it if 
you would do me the favor of responding in kind.</p>
</blockquote>
<p data-sourcepos="9:1-9:192" dir="auto">I would like to know how your 
implication (of course you didn't say that I attacked you, because to 
say that would of course be an attack on me) that I have attacked you is
 justified to you.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="11:1-11:389" dir="auto">I have attacked your 
argument, and I have pointed out contradictions in what you have said 
(or what I see as contradictions), when you have insisted that you are 
not arguing in bad faith, as an explanation of why I feel that you are, 
and I have asked for clarification as to why you feel you are not 
arguing in bad faith, with these contradictions, and your answer has 
been, "they aren't."</p>
<p data-sourcepos="13:1-13:152" dir="auto">And then you have implied 
(but not actually stated it) that I have attacked you, when I do not 
believe that I have, and I don't believe you do either.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="15:1-15:215" dir="auto">You're quite right that you 
haven't actually attacked me.  Just as I have not attacked you.  Yet... 
 Somehow you can, "appreciate it if you do me the favor of responding in
 kind," this implying that I have not been.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="17:1-17:216" dir="auto">This is clear to me.  This is
 very much a bad faith argumentative tactic.  To imply that you have 
been attacked, but don't actually state it, so when it gets questioned, 
you can say, "I never said you attacked me."</p>
<p data-sourcepos="19:1-19:395" dir="auto">Honestly...  If you felt that
 I'd attacked me, you would have directly addressed that attack.  You 
are a smart person.  You are not someone who would back away from 
addressing bad behaviour directly, and you know that had you addressed 
bad behaviour directly, and it was genuinely bad, you probably would 
have had at the very least a cessation of that behaviour, and quite 
possibly an apology.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="21:1-21:197" dir="auto">I see that you really aren't 
willing to address your own behaviour when it has resulted in someone 
stating something you believe is false...  When they explain why they 
believe what they believe.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="23:1-23:183" dir="auto">Your lack of interest in 
rectifying what I see as contradictions is either because you don't see 
them as such, or you're aware that they are, and that you can't actually
 address them.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko and dwkretz"><span>
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 find the whole discussion funny and I think it’s just a waste of your 
time, but as far as I remember, the text on splash screen is actually 
stylized as ‘gimp’, not ‘GIMP’, which should be changed ASAP. But then I
 think you should focus on actual improvements ;)</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="ealgase, Douman, Tim Stahel, Wesley Bliss, and snintendog"><span>
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 specifically advocating for or against the change, I want to bring up 
the issue of practicality of such change. Such rename would require 
changing at least:</p>
<ul data-sourcepos="3:1-7:0" dir="auto">
<li data-sourcepos="3:1-3:30">string constants in the code</li>
<li data-sourcepos="4:1-4:76">domain names used by project (which would create SEO issues and confusion)</li>
<li data-sourcepos="5:1-5:21">Linux package names</li>
<li data-sourcepos="6:1-7:0">third-party references on websites GNOME team does not control</li>
</ul>
<p data-sourcepos="8:1-8:192" dir="auto">Perhaps if someone desperately 
needs a renamed version, they could create a fork that is not any 
different except the name and patches to change the branding (similar to
 GNU IceCat/IceWeasel).</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Benaiah Mischenko and Romain F. T."><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="1:2-1:161">Not specifically advocating for or against
 the change, I want to bring up the issue of practicality of such 
change. Such rename would require changing at least:</p>
<ul data-sourcepos="3:2-6:65">
<li data-sourcepos="3:2-3:31">string constants in the code</li>
<li data-sourcepos="4:2-4:77">domain names used by project (which would create SEO issues and confusion)</li>
<li data-sourcepos="5:2-5:22">Linux package names</li>
<li data-sourcepos="6:2-6:65">third-party references on websites GNOME team does not control</li>
</ul>
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<p data-sourcepos="8:1-8:59" dir="auto">None of these issues happen if the new name is just GnuIMP.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <div class="note_edited_ago edited-text">
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 name GIMP is great for a hobby project or a niche program, but if you 
try to pitch it as an alternative for professional use, having a silly 
name is not really fun or clever, it's just a drawback. Whether or not 
you are offended by it, it's a silly name and convincing people 
otherwise is unlikely to happen.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:38" dir="auto">+1 for a rename, this is a no-brainer.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Romain F. T. and dwkretz"><span>
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 is obviously an issue so many people care about. Otherwise, it wouldn't
 even be possible to get people to care about it by talking about it.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:261" dir="auto">The project admins digging in 
their heels for all of these years is extremely counterproductive. Just 
change the name and be done with FAQs and forums and bug tracking and 
discussions and unease over recommending the product or mentioning it in
 formal contexts.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:78" dir="auto">There's much to win and nothing to lose except your egos by changing the name.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="dwkretz"><span>
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 tradeoffs are mentioned in the FAQ. Besides that, there's really no 
reason to change the name. There's no reason that people couldn't 
recommend GIMP. If people feel uncomfortable saying "GIMP", why not just
 say "GNU Image Manipulation Program"?</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547826" id="note_547826" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547826/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547826"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JordIGH" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/9183851afb6a2d6073a42051ee12745d" alt="JordiGH" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/9183851afb6a2d6073a42051ee12745d?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JordIGH" data-user-id="21726" data-username="JordIGH" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">JordiGH</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@JordIGH</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547826" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 12:46pm UTC">8 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:198" dir="auto">The
 FAQ lies, it says "it is not their intent" to give the name any meaning
 when the original authors have clearly stated that they were thinking 
of Pulp Fiction's gimp when they named the software.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547827" id="note_547827" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547827/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547827"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JohnMH" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/997862431951bde414e539e5feb02e49" alt="John Harris" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/997862431951bde414e539e5feb02e49?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JohnMH" data-user-id="21735" data-username="JohnMH" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">John Harris</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@JohnMH</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547827" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 12:47pm UTC">8 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:227" dir="auto"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JordIGH" data-user="21726" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="JordiGH">@JordIGH</a>
 That's the original influence, not its meaning. Sure, it's a reference 
to that, and that's an awesome reference, but that's not what the name 
means. The name means: "GNU Image Manipulation Program" , or GIMP for 
short.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547830" id="note_547830" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547830/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547830"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JordIGH" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/9183851afb6a2d6073a42051ee12745d" alt="JordiGH" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/9183851afb6a2d6073a42051ee12745d?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JordIGH" data-user-id="21726" data-username="JordIGH" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">JordiGH</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@JordIGH</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547830" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 12:49pm UTC">8 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:381" dir="auto">Meaning
 doesn't work like that. Meaning isn't given by what you want it to 
mean, after the fact. Meaning is produced by what people think of when 
they hear the word. If everyone or most people who hear the word think 
it means something else when they hear it, that's what the word means. 
Coming up with clever backronyms doesn't change the original meaning in 
everyone else's mind.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:147" dir="auto">Communication and language 
involves a speaker and a listener. You can't blame all the listeners if 
the speaker is continually being misinterpreted.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547834" id="note_547834" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547834/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547834"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JohnMH" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/997862431951bde414e539e5feb02e49" alt="John Harris" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/997862431951bde414e539e5feb02e49?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JohnMH" data-user-id="21735" data-username="JohnMH" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">John Harris</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@JohnMH</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547834" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 12:53pm UTC">8 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:92" dir="auto">Well, there's no denying that GIMP is short for GNU Image Manipulation Program in this case.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547841" id="note_547841" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547841/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547841"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/dngray" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/3d9125ebe037a5f01b0a0d3538a8b7d0" alt="Daniel Gray" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3d9125ebe037a5f01b0a0d3538a8b7d0?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/dngray" data-user-id="16875" data-username="dngray" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">Daniel Gray</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@dngray</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547841" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 12:58pm UTC">8 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><blockquote data-sourcepos="1:1-1:147" dir="auto">
<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:147">This is obviously an issue so many people 
care about. Otherwise, it wouldn't even be possible to get people to 
care about it by talking about it.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:311" dir="auto">You've <strong>purposefully</strong> tried to make this an issue by linking it in a number of places in order to generate outrage, as it was pointed out in that <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/issues/3618" data-original="duplicate issue you posted" data-link="true" data-link-reference="true" data-project="1848" data-issue="68668" data-reference-type="issue" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" title="" class="gfm gfm-issue has-tooltip" data-original-title="Consider Renaming GIMP To A Less Offensive Name">duplicate issue you posted</a>. I would say that is an effort to brigade on an issue that has already been resolved.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:196" dir="auto">If you look at most of the 
accounts commenting here they were only opened today to post in this 
issue. None of them have contributed to the GIMP project in any other 
way (code, commits, bugs etc).</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Gabriel Lima, Tim Stahel, and snintendog"><span>
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 can we deny that a lot of people don't think of that when you say the 
name. You could name the software any number of other things, say 
"FUCK", and then act all high and mighty when people get offended by it 
and tell them, "aha, you fools! I got you! The name actually means Fun 
Useful Change Kit, don't you feel silly now for having such a dirty 
mind!?"</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:35" dir="auto">In terms that you might understand:</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:25" dir="auto"><a href="https://www.xkcd.com/169/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.xkcd.com/169/</a></p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547843" id="note_547843" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547843/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547843"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JordIGH" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/9183851afb6a2d6073a42051ee12745d" alt="JordiGH" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/9183851afb6a2d6073a42051ee12745d?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JordIGH" data-user-id="21726" data-username="JordIGH" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">JordiGH</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@JordIGH</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547843" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 12:59pm UTC">8 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:171" dir="auto"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/dngray" data-user="16875" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="Daniel Gray">@dngray</a>
 If the issue were resolved, I would be the only one presenting the 
argument to change the name and I wouldn't be able to find anyone in the
 world to agree with me.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547846" id="note_547846" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547846/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547846"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JohnMH" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/997862431951bde414e539e5feb02e49" alt="John Harris" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/997862431951bde414e539e5feb02e49?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JohnMH" data-user-id="21735" data-username="JohnMH" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">John Harris</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@JohnMH</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547846" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 1:01pm UTC">8 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:120" dir="auto"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JordIGH" data-user="21726" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="JordiGH">@JordIGH</a> Luckily, that is not the situation. When people open their application menu, and type <code>gimp</code> they get The GIMP.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547849" id="note_547849" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547849/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547849"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JordIGH" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/9183851afb6a2d6073a42051ee12745d" alt="JordiGH" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/9183851afb6a2d6073a42051ee12745d?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JordIGH" data-user-id="21726" data-username="JordIGH" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">JordiGH</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@JordIGH</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547849" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 1:05pm UTC">8 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:174" dir="auto"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JohnMH" data-user="21735" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="John Harris">@JohnMH</a>
 You called it "the gimp", making the Pulp Fiction connexion, falling 
for the "trap" that the gimp authors made, since officially the "the" 
shouldn't be there anymore.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:162" dir="auto"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/dngray" data-user="16875" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="Daniel Gray">@dngray</a>
 In other words, don't shoot the messenger. I didn't start this fire. 
Not by a longshot. Don't look to me as an enemy to raise your 
fortifications against.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:195" dir="auto">I <em>want</em> this to stop. 
It's the first time I've ever spoken up about this, even though I use 
gimp regularly. Every time gimp makes a new release, I <em>always</em> see people bringing up the name thing.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="7:1-7:141" dir="auto">Digging in your heels and 
sticking to the name is extremely counterproductive. These arguments 
could quickly go away by a simple name change.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547851" id="note_547851" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547851/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547851"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/Shamar" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/3daaea0ebce68c00202f395eb796724c" alt="Giacomo Tesio" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3daaea0ebce68c00202f395eb796724c?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/Shamar" data-user-id="21762" data-username="Shamar" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">Giacomo Tesio</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@Shamar</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547851" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 1:05pm UTC">8 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><blockquote data-sourcepos="1:1-1:55" dir="auto">
<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:55">This is obviously an issue so many people care about.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:59" dir="auto">This is not really a serious statistical analysis <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JordIGH" data-user="21726" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="JordiGH">@JordIGH</a>.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:159" dir="auto">There are only 63 persons 
talking here, not even remotely a representative sample of the Gimp's 
users (and I think even less the Gimp's developers) world wide.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="7:1-7:84" dir="auto">(edited by <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/csoriano-admin-account" data-user="1192" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="GitLab Admin - Carlos Soriano">@csoriano-admin-account</a> - No personal websites/social media links please)</p></div> <!----> <!----> <div class="note_edited_ago edited-text">
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<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:165">If the issue were resolved, I would be the
 only one presenting the argument to change the name and I wouldn't be 
able to find anyone in the world to agree with me.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:3-3:193">I want this to stop. It's the first time 
I've ever spoken up about this, even though I use gimp regularly. Every 
time gimp makes a new release, I always see people bringing up the name 
thing.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:3-5:143">Digging in your heels and sticking to the 
name is extremely counterproductive. These arguments could quickly go 
away by a simple name change.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="7:1-7:379" dir="auto">So when you <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/issues/3617#note_547320" data-original="got your answer" data-link="true" data-link-reference="true" data-project="1848" data-issue="68656" data-reference-type="issue" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" title="" class="gfm gfm-issue has-tooltip" data-original-title="Consider Renaming GIMP To A Less Offensive Name">got your answer</a> from one of the maintainers you decided to open a <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/issues/3618" data-original="duplicate issue" data-link="true" data-link-reference="true" data-project="1848" data-issue="68668" data-reference-type="issue" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" title="Consider Renaming GIMP To A Less Offensive Name" class="gfm gfm-issue has-tooltip">duplicate issue</a>
 and disseminate the discussion far and wide in hopes of having a bunch 
of people come in here and give their opinions? That doesn't seem like 
someone who wants it to stop.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="9:1-9:276" dir="auto">Then point and say "see look a 
lot of people care". The fact is people will get outraged at the most 
minor things (as someone pointed out GNOME could be offensive to short 
people). GIMP has had it's name for 23 years and it's clearly defined as
 GNU Image Manipulation Program.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <div class="note_edited_ago edited-text">
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:163" dir="auto">If you consider this to be a 
trap, then it has certainly been "sprung", and we've got an over 2 
decade old name name for an awesome project with some cool history.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547859" id="note_547859" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547859/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547859"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JordIGH" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/9183851afb6a2d6073a42051ee12745d" alt="JordiGH" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/9183851afb6a2d6073a42051ee12745d?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/JordIGH" data-user-id="21726" data-username="JordIGH" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">JordiGH</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@JordIGH</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547859" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 1:08pm UTC">8 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:128" dir="auto"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/dngray" data-user="16875" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="Daniel Gray">@dngray</a> So, what's a better use of your time, arguing with me and everyone else over the years about this, or changing the name?</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547860" id="note_547860" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547860/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547860"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/csoriano-admin-account" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/723f63eaacc2fb28af0af3dc212b952e" alt="GitLab Admin - Carlos Soriano" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/723f63eaacc2fb28af0af3dc212b952e?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/csoriano-admin-account" data-user-id="1192" data-username="csoriano-admin-account" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">GitLab Admin - Carlos Soriano</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@csoriano-admin-account</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547860" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 1:10pm UTC">8 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><span class="note-role user-access-role">Owner</span> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:70" dir="auto"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/Shamar" data-user="21762" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="Giacomo Tesio">@Shamar</a> Hi, don't link to personal sites or social media pages please.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Giacomo Tesio and Tim Stahel"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:122">So, what's a better use of your time, arguing with me and everyone else over the years about this, or changing the name?</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:160" dir="auto">The reason certain people want 
the name changed has nothing to do with the name and more to do with 
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 anyone in this thread even in the least offended by the name of the 
project? Or is it the assumption that somebody out there must be 
offended by it?</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:54" dir="auto">If the latter, why are we even having this discussion?</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Gabriel Lima, Tim Stahel, and Wesley Bliss"><span>
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 It's human nature to see enemies, to dig in your heels, to redouble 
your efforts to attack people when presented with an argument instead of
 the argument itself. You and I are both doing it.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:149" dir="auto">Looking at this as 
dispassionately as I can, we're both spending a lot of energy arguing 
over something that could just go away with a simple change.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:226" dir="auto">I won't be the last person to 
say the name should change. I'll eventually get tired and walk away. But
 there will always be new people to come and argue about the same thing.
 There wouldn't be a need for a FAQ entry otherwise.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547868" id="note_547868" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547868/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547868"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/dngray" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/3d9125ebe037a5f01b0a0d3538a8b7d0" alt="Daniel Gray" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3d9125ebe037a5f01b0a0d3538a8b7d0?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/dngray" data-user-id="16875" data-username="dngray" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">Daniel Gray</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@dngray</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547868" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 1:14pm UTC">8 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><blockquote data-sourcepos="1:1-1:56" dir="auto">
<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:56">If the latter, why are we even having this discussion?</p>
</blockquote>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:169" dir="auto">The other thing is as most 
people don't care they won't be commenting here, so saying "look all 
these people care because they posted" isn't really a metric of 
anything.</p>
<blockquote data-sourcepos="5:1-5:192" dir="auto">
<p data-sourcepos="5:3-5:192">It's human nature to see enemies, to dig 
in your heels, to redouble your efforts to attack people when presented 
with an argument instead of the argument itself. You and I are both 
doing it.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="7:1-7:112" dir="auto">So you're saying that those accounts on HN and Lobste.rs are not you even though they've both got the same name?</p>
<blockquote data-sourcepos="9:1-9:151" dir="auto">
<p data-sourcepos="9:3-9:151">Looking at this as dispassionately as I 
can, we're both spending a lot of energy arguing over something that 
could just go away with a simple change.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="11:1-11:84" dir="auto">I have spent next to no time, because I don't care. I made 3 comments and that's it.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="13:3-13:228">I won't be the last person to say the 
name should change. I'll eventually get tired and walk away. But there 
will always be new people to come and argue about the same thing. There 
wouldn't be a need for a FAQ entry otherwise.</p>
</blockquote>
<p data-sourcepos="15:1-15:69" dir="auto">Maybe those people can make a product and call it whatever they want.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Gabriel Lima, Tim Stahel, and Wesley Bliss"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:57">something that could just go away with a simple change.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:25" dir="auto">It's not a simple change.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:251" dir="auto">There are more than 20 years of online video, tutorials, documentation and so on that would instantly become <strong>less accessible</strong> and <strong>more confusing</strong> to most people in the world (that don't speak english natively and not even know "gimp" is a slur).</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Gabriel Lima, ealgase, Tim Stahel, Wesley Bliss, and snintendog"><span>
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I'm sure it's not intended, but it looks like a pretty imperialistic (and a bit paternalistic) approach, if you think about it.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="4:1-5:163" dir="auto">I didn't knew "gimp" could be considered an insult before reading your post and I think I will forget it soon since the <strong>only</strong>
 use I do of this word is to refer to the GNU Image Manipulation. And I 
guess that for the vast majority of Gimp's users world wide it's the 
same. To us, changing the Gimp's name would be <strong>a great disservice</strong>! Imagine new non-native English speakers <strong>looking for online documentation and tutorials</strong>
 for the renamed program. They would likely miss everything that was 
written for "Gimp" in more than twenty years!
Also there is no way to be sure that any acronym would end to be 
offensive to another group, in another culture world wide, either in the
 present or in the future.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="7:1-7:96" dir="auto">So technically and socially speaking such change has an <strong>high cost</strong> and basically <strong>no gain</strong>.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="9:1-10:341" dir="auto">Don't get me wrong: <strong>in no way I want to discourage you to fork Gimp</strong>
 into, say, CRIMP (Christopher's Renamed Image Manipulation Tool) and 
rename each occurrence of the string you find so offensive in your fork.
I think it would be an interesting hack and could be done automatically 
with a script and few contents on each stable release of Gimp. Similar 
paths have been experimented before <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_software_rebranded_by_Debian#Iceweasel" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">for legal issues</a>. So really, if you think it's so important to you, go for a fork.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="12:1-12:86" dir="auto">If I can give you a suggestion, I think we could all take it with a bit of <strong>humour</strong>.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="14:1-15:49" dir="auto">After all Gimp is the name of the software itself, it defines <strong>itself</strong> as gimp.
It's not directed to the user or to anybody else.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="17:1-17:52" dir="auto">It's a brilliant naming hack, if you think about it:</p>
<ul data-sourcepos="19:1-22:0" dir="auto">
<li data-sourcepos="19:1-19:13">it's humble</li>
<li data-sourcepos="20:1-20:18">it's self ironic</li>
<li data-sourcepos="21:1-22:0">
<strong>it aligns with the victims</strong> of the slur</li>
</ul>
<p data-sourcepos="23:1-23:285" dir="auto">So ultimately I think the <a href="https://www.gimp.org/docs/userfaq.html#i-dont-like-the-name-gimp-will-you-change-it" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">FAQ is right</a>,
 but not clear enough: the more you care about the people insulted 
through this term, the more you should want it as the name of a 
marvellous software as Gimp.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <div class="note_edited_ago edited-text">
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<p data-sourcepos="1:3-1:282">Consider <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/BrainBlasted" data-user="642" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="Christopher Davis">@BrainBlasted</a> that you are trying to <strong>impose</strong> one specific (and rather <strong>moralistic</strong>) American perspective to everybody else <strong>world wide</strong>.
 I'm sure it's not intended, but it looks like a pretty imperialistic 
(and a bit paternalistic) approach, if you think about it.</p>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:144" dir="auto">The usage of gimp as a slur is 
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 It's.. definitely not very understanding of you to simply disregard 
somebody's contributions simply because you disagree with the premise.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="ealgase, Tim Stahel, Wesley Bliss, and snintendog"><span>
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 have you ever been in Italy, in French, in Brazil or in any other place
 where people don't speak English natively and found somebody insulting 
somebody else with the world "gimp"?</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:99" dir="auto">I guess you didn't, because most of people around the world don't use English to insult each other!</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:115" dir="auto">While English is the <em>lingua franca</em> of this age, we don't share your history, your culture and your social issues.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="7:1-7:108" dir="auto">So trying to impose your sensibility to everybody else in the world is a bit... oppressive, don't you think?</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Gabriel Lima, ealgase, Tim Stahel, Wesley Bliss, Annie May, and snintendog"><span>
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 there than it does here. So consider this being, "gimp" is a real 
problem for the enUS localization, and that a different styling of the 
same name (such as the GNU IMP styling) would be more culturally 
appropriate.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li><li class="timeline-entry note note-wrapper qa-noteable-note-item note-row-547890" id="note_547890" data-award-url="/GNOME/gimp/notes/547890/toggle_award_emoji" data-note-id="547890"><div class="timeline-entry-inner"><div class="timeline-icon"><a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/Shamar" class="user-avatar-link"><span><img src="Consider%20Renaming%20GIMP%20To%20A%20Less%20Offensive%20Name%20(%233617)%20%C2%B7%20Issues%20%C2%B7%20GNOME%20_%20GIMP%20%C2%B7%20GitLab_files/3daaea0ebce68c00202f395eb796724c" alt="Giacomo Tesio" data-src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/3daaea0ebce68c00202f395eb796724c?s=80&amp;d=identicon" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a></div> <div class="timeline-content"><div class="note-header"><div class="note-header-info"><!----> <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/Shamar" data-user-id="21762" data-username="Shamar" class="js-user-link"> <span class="note-header-author-name bold">Giacomo Tesio</span> <!----> <span class="note-headline-light">@Shamar</span></a> <span class="note-headline-light note-headline-meta"><span class="system-note-message"> <span class="d-none d-sm-inline">·</span></span> <span class="system-note-separator"><!----></span> <a href="#note_547890" class="note-timestamp system-note-separator"><time title="" class="" data-original-title="Jul 5, 2019 1:34pm UTC">7 hours ago</time></a> <i aria-label="Comment is being updated" aria-hidden="true" class="fa fa-spinner fa-spin editing-spinner"></i></span></div> <div class="note-actions" discussion-id=""><!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div> <div class="timeline-discussion-body"> <div class="note-body"><div class="note-text md"><p data-sourcepos="1:1-1:98" dir="auto">I don't think so <a href="https://gitlab.gnome.org/falkreon" data-user="21738" data-reference-type="user" data-container="body" data-placement="bottom" class="gfm gfm-project_member" title="Falkreon">@falkreon</a>, because Gimp is the <strong>name</strong> of the project, not a string in the text.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:186" dir="auto">I'd have no issue if the en-US 
localization of Gimp would have all string containing Gimp replaced with
 something you prefer as long as the C localization would still clearly 
use "Gimp".</p>
<p data-sourcepos="5:1-5:207" dir="auto">But by asking to change the 
project name that is known and used world wide, you are imposing the 
en-US sensibility (and I'd guess, that of a small but loudly group even 
there) to all people around the world.</p>
<p data-sourcepos="7:1-7:34" dir="auto">That's plain cultural imperialism.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Gabriel Lima, Tim Pickard, ealgase, Tim Stahel, Wesley Bliss, Annie May, and snintendog"><span>
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 I really don't believe this is "en-US sensibility". There are many 
Americans, like myself, that don't believe in this sort of thing.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----> <!----></div></div></div></div></li></ul> <div class="discussion-reply-holder"><a href="" class="user-avatar-link d-none d-sm-block"><span><img src="data:image/png;base64,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" alt="" data-src="data:image/png;base64,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" class="avatar s40 " width="40" height="40"> <!----></span><!----></a> <!----> <!----> <div class="disabled-comment text-center">
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 is what I love to see, social justice warriors brigading to make GIMP 
change it's name and failing. The FAQ is plain as day.</p></div> <!----> <!----> <!----> <div class="note-awards"><div class="awards js-awards-block"><button title="" data-boundary="viewport" type="button" class="btn award-control disabled" data-original-title="Tim Pickard, Tim Stahel, Wesley Bliss, Annie May, Aden Aden, snintendog, and Brady Killeen"><span>
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<p data-sourcepos="3:1-3:194" dir="auto">The issue is now locked for a 
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